#25 - Kunal Agarwal (CEO, Dope Security) & Emilio Escobar (CISO, Datadog) - Deep Dive into SSE & SASE Security, The Convergence of Networking & Security

This episode is for whomever is curious about Secure Service Edge (SSE) or Secure Access Service Edge (SASE) Security and why seemingly every public security company seems to be trumpeting their solutions in this space which Gartner predicts will be one of the fastest-growing categories of spend in the coming years.

Kunal Agarwal is the Founder & CEO of Dope Security which is building a modern Secure Service Edge (SSE) platform. He was previously Sr Director of Product at Forcepoint and GM at Symantec. Kunal started his journey into security as a teenage hacker. I’m also joined by Emilio Escobar, CISO of Datadog as a co-host. In this episode, we dive into what is SSE & SASE Security including the different components that make up these solutions, why networking & security are converging now, and how design and implementation for modern systems can change how enterprises adopt security products.

Where to Find Kunal:

• Twitter: https://twitter.com/iamkunala

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kunala/

• Company Website: https://dope.security/

• CISO in Cars Podcast: https://dope.security/podcast

Where to Find Emilio:

• Twitter: https://twitter.com/eaescob

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilioesc/

• Emilio’s Newsletter: https://emilioe.substack.com

Where to Find Shomik:

• Twitter: https://twitter.com/shomikghosh21

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shomik-ghosh-a5a71319/

• Software Snack Bites Newsletter: https://www.shomik.substack.com

• Software Snack Bites Podcast: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google.

In this episode, we cover:

(00:42) - Kunal and Dope Security’s Background

(04:47) - SSE & SASE Security Definition

(06:31) - Zero Trust & SSE/SASE - Same or Different?

(08:40) - Why SSE & SASE Growth is Scaling Rapidly

(12:04) - What is a Secure Web Gateway (SWG)?

(13:38) - Are Firewalls Still Needed?

(15:43) - What are Cloud Access Security Brokers (CASB)?

(18:42) - What is Remote Browser Isolation and an Enterprise Browser?

(23:17) - Where Enterprise Adoption of SSE/SASE Is Currently

(27:33) - Where Existing SSE/SASE Solutions Fall Short

(28:57) - UI/UX Treated as First Class Need for Security Products

(35:20) - Who Has the Pain in Enterprises related to SSE/SASE

(37:07) - Why End User Design is Challenging at Legacy Security Companies

How to Subscribe:

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